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  Powerfully heart-wrenching experience by FORMER BETHLITE

  by Black Man in

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  just wanting to post an experience by a former bethelite.

  the first part was just published with the other two coming overt the next couple of weeks.

  click the link.

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  Black Man

  Just wanting to post an experience by a former Bethelite. The first part was just published with the other two coming overt the next couple of weeks. Click the link. I salute her bravery and as someone that I personally know and who has posted here on occasion, I AM SO PROUD OF HER. Her story takes GREAT COURAGE to tell. Check it out - its incredibly engaging and told in such a way that you will not want to turn your computer off.

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  http://watchtowerwatch.com/blog/its-never-too-late-mariucas-story
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  Crazy public talk last Sunday: The Origin of Humans - Does It Matter What You Believe?

  by 88JM in

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  2. friends

  from the congregation that brought you these watchtower comments, i thought you would enjoy some selected quotes from the public talk we had last sunday from the crazy talk outline: "the origin of humansdoes it matter what you believe?".

  it's amazing this talk outline is still allowed - some of the material is hilarious, and the arguments are so wild and misrepresented.

  i still have the audio file if you can bear to listen to it, i could pm you a link.

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  Black Man

  wow.........
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  If 1914 is wrong then how is it that it was such a landmark year?

  by awakening in

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  2. friends

  this is the question that came up in my mind.

  now dont get me wrong i know the dates from 607 - 1914 are rubbish, but how would you explain to a witness when they will automatically say, look at the momentus year 1914 was.

  that is evidence enough that 607 is correct!.

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  Black Man

  bookmarked
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  Fictious "Universal Sovereignty" Issue Proposed By Watchtower Corporation Is Idiotic

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok so a big part of the wt corporation ideological structure is the invention of the issue before all creation being "universal sovereignty".. the story goes like this very basically:.

  for untold years jehovah's soverneignty was never challenged, then after so many millions of years jehovahs started his earthly creation with adam&eve being the culmination of that work.

  soon afterwards satan seduces eve to disobey jehovah and thus we have the very first act of disobedience satan slanders god by telling eve god is selfish as to the reason he forbids eating this other wise nice looking fruit adam joins his wife in the rebellion.. god in his infinite wisdom allows this rebellion because this was a challenge to his sovereingty and so he is allowing a reasonable amount of time to let mankind and angels see for themselves that his rulership is better that satan's.. so basically it is like a bet he has with satan or who's rulership is best, and he's allowing time to prove his is far superior.. well if you look at it logically it don't add up.. 1. if god is going to allow satan to prove his point about who's rulership is better why is he alway interfereing and interveining that's unfair.. 2. god goes on killing sprees of people man women and chilldren (not very smart for some trying to prove his rulership is better for people to follow.. 3. god show himself to be jealous (not a good trait for a ruler to endear himself to people).. 4. god's scare people to except his ruler ship.. and i have even more reason to show the whole idea is a made up sham..

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  Black Man

  good topic!
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  TV Show, 'The Bible'

  by LV101 in

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  anyone planning to watch 'the bible' tv show march 3 on the history channel.

  five episodes focusing on o/t and five about the n/t.

  any thoughts?

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  Black Man

  Will check it out.
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  Faith with out FEARS is dead....

  by Fed-up in

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  2. bible

  isn't that the way the scripture goes?

  it's more accurate, i think.. one of the comments on one of the threads (sorry, i'd give due credit, but can't find it again) mentions someone finally being able to size up jw's as one would any other religion.

  indeed, he that is under fear has not been made perfect in love.

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  Black Man

  Great thread! Agree with all the sentiments expressed.
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  Pioneering - the best job in the world!

  by MMXIV in

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  2. friends

  how often did i hear those words at circuit or district assemblies - that pioneering was the best job in the world?

  how often did i hear a fake job advert for pioneering where there was 100% job satisfaction working for the most powerful person in the universe and you'd get to travel the world and live forever.... i've done both jobs and would say that the job advert should more honestly read like this:.

  secular job.

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  Black Man

  Good thread, MM!
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  What was it about Bethel that woke you up?

  by cognisonance in

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  one the how many exbethelites thread it was mentioned that some think one either leaves down the path towards apostasy or as a 100% true believer.

  i'm curious what experiences did you face at bethel that woke you up (or started to at least)?.

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  Black Man

  puffthedragon:

  Yeah, I think it was Montague Street Video.

  Like someone else mentioned, I got myself a Post Office Box with a quickness, because they would go through your mail. And they would ESPECIALLY go through your record/music collection. Remember getting called into Bethel Office once regarding questions about my music. If they found that you had rap, you were immediately dismissed.
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  What was it about Bethel that woke you up?

  by cognisonance in

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  2. friends

  one the how many exbethelites thread it was mentioned that some think one either leaves down the path towards apostasy or as a 100% true believer.

  i'm curious what experiences did you face at bethel that woke you up (or started to at least)?.

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  Black Man

  Anyone remember the video rental sting operation they ran in the 1990s? There was this video rental store (can't remember the name, but it was on Montague Street across from the Bossert) where many Bethelites would rent videos/movies from.

  Anyhow, Bethel had this rule that you couldn't watch R-rated movies or you could get kicked out (mind you some of the greatest movies are R-rated = Godfather, Schindler's List, etc).

  Anyhow, they were able to regularly obtain the rental receipts from the video store and any Bethelites checking out R-rated movies or worse were sent home. I remember them doing this 'sting' for at least a couple years.
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  Powerful questions to DEBUNK the Universal Sovreignty issue

  by Black Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, we've had some great posts about the universal sovreignty issue over the years.

  i'd like to have this post be about powerful common-sense questions that get right to the core of unraveling it for the nonsense it is.

  when i talk to jw relatives, i'm sticking with the strategy of just posing questions instead of arguing with them.

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  Black Man

  This goes up!